In this fantastic episode we dig into how normal people can turn into superhero API warriors using Podio, ProcFu and the magic of the internet.
We’re joined by Andrew Cranston, Gamechanger’s CTO and a regular contributor to the GlobiFlow and ProcFu workspaces.
Andrew started out as a non-coder, and his path to API wizardry shows just how much you can get with some research, trial and error, and ProcfFu.
ProcFu (www.procfu.com) features heavily in this episode and Andrew breaks it down so that even the newest of newbies can understand.
This episode is highly recommended if you are thinking about doing more advanced things in Podio and just don’t know how to start.
Check out https://www.w3schools.com/ for more resources Andrew speaks about and try yourself!
Speaker 1: 0:00
Welcome to powered by Podio. Automation is everything. Super. Charge your business with podio. Get ready for another episode of supercharged with Jordan Samuel Fleming, your weekly dive into the awesome impact workflow and automation can have on your business when it’s powered by podio. Join US each week as we learn from the top podio partners in the world as we investigate system integrations and add ons and hear from real business owners who have implemented podio into their business. Now join your host Jordan, Samuel Fleming, CEO of game changers for this week’s episode.
Speaker 2: 0:45
Hey everybody and welcome to this episode of supercharged. I’m your host Jordan Saudi will Fleming. He had to talk. Oh, about the power of workflow and automation in your business is powered by podio. Today’s guest is Andrew Creston.
Speaker 3: 0:56
He’s actually the CTO of my company game changes. And I’m excited to have on the podcast today because he’s done a lot of advanced building in podio over the last couple of years and has sort of gone on a journey to become a podio Ninja that I think a lot of people want to go on or, or sort of in the midst of. So today we, we can, uh, take a look together at how you can get started building more advanced things, particularly using some of the tools available to you, uh, in the podio app market. So Andrew, uh, welcome to the podcast and just give a little introduction.
Speaker 4: 1:31
Uh, okay. Well, so, uh, as you mentioned, I am the CTO of game changers. Uh, you and I have been working together for about three and a half years now. Maybe. Uh, and, uh, it’s kind of funny. We didn’t even start, our relationship didn’t even start off with Podio, but it kind of quickly turned into podio and a, and we’ve watched it change and evolve and move very quickly over the past couple of years. And, uh, it’s very cool how we’ve had the opportunity to work in a multitude of different industries with different kinds of companies and uh, and build solutions that span a wide range of things. But that’s the cool thing about podio I guess is that you can literally do anything with it. And, you know, we continue to push the boundaries and find cool, interesting ways to, uh, to push podio further on.
Speaker 3: 2:22
Absolutely. And I think one of the, you know, one of the things that I’ve noticed is certainly, um, you know, you look at the resources we have access to is in Podio, in, in terms of things like the Globee flow workspace, the prox through workspace, even the podio partner workspace. And a lot of the tools now have their own workspaces. I mean, smartphone now I think we’re up to over a thousand users in that workspace. Um, the, you know, uh, the momentum tools guys have workspaces and these work spaces provide us with huge amounts of knowledge based resource, uh, to, to, to help each other out. So how you, like I, I’m assuming, and I know most of the answers is, but you’ve sort of developed a lot of, of, of your own thinking and ability, but you, you started off developing it by using those workspaces and now you’ve become one of the guys who contribute to the top end. What’s that been like?
Speaker 4: 3:17
Yeah. So, so that’s, that’s exactly right. So I mean that, and I said this, I said this before, like in the old days, which is two years ago, I know old days, um, uh, you know, there was those workspaces, we’re kind of still in their fledgling, uh, you know, the approximate workspace didn’t really exist and even though it is technically supposed to be about proxy, it does yield a lot of conversation and discussion about a lot of other topics as well. Um, and basically those workspaces were wholly responsible for me. Um, learning a lot of what I’ve learned. And you know, you go in there and you search for things, you have a problem and you’re like, how do I solve this problem? And you go in and you search and you leave a message. And then one of the fabulous people who are all over that form, people like Rainier, people like John Claude, uh, who are just answering messages constantly, um, eh, are able to give you quick answers. And that’s basically how I learned to do a vast majority of little tricks and things beyond tinkering myself. So, yeah. So I mean, I, I love giving back to that community. I think, um, I think that the podio community, the online podio community, uh, and it’s staggered or a spread it as it is across multiple workspaces, but I mean, there are people that are in every workspace is unique. It’s, it’s something that is very cool to be able to, and the whole podio partner network as well. And us being like a little community of our own where we can share experiences and share concerns and share tips and tricks and stuff like that. Um, it’s, it’s really cool to be able to give back to that community. And I hope it’s, I hope it continues to grow and continues to thrive in that way because people who are just coming into podio globiflow now, um, hopefully they’ll get, they’ll quickly learn how useful that community is, how useful those workspaces are. And now, two years later, there was an even larger amount of, um, of ideas and answers and there and all you have to do is kind of just find unique ways of searching. But mostly people are very forgiving if you happen to have a duplicate question, it happens all the time. And, and, uh, you know, we’re just there to try to help people out to get people moving into that next step.
Speaker 3: 5:34
Yeah. The only unforgivable thing is the mentioning of the whole workspace that that tends to get a smack down wherever you are. Um, uh, I even myself as, as the, the sort of administrator or one of the administrators of the smartphone user workspace, I’m very, very careful to not add, mention the whole workspace except for, you know, major announcements cause a, that just drives nuts. So, um, one of the things I, I’ve noticed on, you know, I’ve noticed that the PROC food workspace, I’ve noticed in the globe, globe, you flow workspaces. Um, you know, these tools are, are allowing what I would class as nontechnical people to provide much more technical solutions than their capabilities within the assumed their capabilities would allow them to. Because you, you know, and I think the, the journey that most people have on Globee flow becomes one of, Oh my God, I can do this. And, you know, because it’s a drag and drop and you can do, you know, you can start to, to, to, to suddenly realize that nested if statements have powers and, and you know, and getting referenced over here and you know, doing a for each, uh, suddenly be, it lets you do amazing things. But, um, I, I’d like to focus in on, on how maybe we’ve used some of these tools over the last two years to, to do some, some things that polio just can’t normally do. Um, you know, and I’m thinking about things like copying files. Um, you know, I’ve shown now are our methodology for doing email management to a number of people and they’ll love it. Um, so talk to me a bit like let’s, let’s go through maybe just the email management, the way we’ve got it set up in game changers so that people can understand a bit about how we’ve done it, how we’re using these tools and the fact that it’s not that difficult for you to do it yourself.
Speaker 4: 7:26
Well, well I mean just just to speak to a moment about Procko and how revolutionary it is and, and, and it’s, it, it is responsible Procko was almost wholly responsible for my sort of awakening a for me being able to move to that next level. And in essence what proc food does is, you know, the Podio Api, the, the Podio Api that lets us do all the cool things that we want to do. Right. And globiflow um, lets us do a lot that the podio Api will let us do, like globiflow is built in such a way that it lets you access a lot of what the podio API has to offer. But not everything. And you know, it’s not a perfect system. There are things that are left behind and that’s those gaps that are left behind. It’s kind of what proxy, who is trying to fill the gaps for and why. It’s such a sexy sort of, um, you know, addition to anybody who’s, who’s really working in Globee flow and not necessarily working up to their own level of writing their own code or, or understanding stuff like that is there are things that you have to do when you want to work with an API. One of them being authentication who is, who are you, who’s using the API and um, and proximate takes a lot of that, that hard sort of stepping first steps out of the way. And then it’s just a matter of you accessing these individual parts of the API that you want. So there’s being able to have, being able to have those, those, those options speeds, development along.
Speaker 3: 8:58
That was the top. Sure. Let’s do it. Let me just send her up to you for a second cause I want to actually drill into that a bit because you know, you, you sort of nonchalantly say, you know, there’s this, this authentication and proxy who allows it. But actually from a non technical point of view that could scare someone quite a bit. I mean, even even if prof food provides you too, I’ve seen the puck first scripts and I still know what the fuck they do. Um, cause I’m, that’s not my gig. That’s not what I do. And uh, you know, um, so just let’s just before we go into the email bed, let’s just drive into that one authentication bed and talk to me a bit about how you got started into it and how, like what was that learning curve like? Look, that’s what I really want to understand. Because for people who aren’t technical, I think technical things can, you know, the moment you start seeing scripts and, and bits, you can start to go, oh shit, this is going to be above my level now. You were already a geek and I know that because I’ve known you for a number of years but, but you weren’t a coder, you were, you were just a guy who kind of like technology and then bits and things doing it. So she just truly into just when you first did something like this, a authentication, how hard a learning curve rezip what was that like? So
Speaker 4: 10:14
understanding globiflow it has a lot to do with understanding the language that it’s written in, which is PHP. Okay, so there’s a hundred, there’s lots of different languages out there. If you want to learn to code, there’s, there’s lots of different languages. You’re going to find many different communities. They’re going to convince you that certain languages are better than others. It’s really up to you I suppose. And um, and PHP is a very solid sort of easy to understand language. I mean it’s something that you can pick up fast and globiflow is written with PHB in mind. Like, for instance, if you have a custom variable and glove, we flow and you want to analyze a date and you use date open bracket and you do all that shit in the middle of close bracket. Okay, that’s a function. That’s a PHP function. Okay. And I said him, I said before like understanding when somebody says, what do I, how do I, how do I do this? And globiflow and then you’re like, and then they give you a piece of code and you throw it in and you’re like, okay, it works fine and then you walk away. But do you understand actually like what it is? You know, so last, not last Christmas, but the Christmas before I was started to work on a little pet project, a little sort of little, little, um, uh, possible like podio extension that, uh, that I was interested in kind of tinkering with it. Then I started writing it and globiflow completely 100%. And um, and the, the, the manner of authentication and working with Apis is there are things that globiflow doesn’t do very well in terms of these authentications. I won’t bore people, but you know, there are types of authentication that require you to basically be able to handshake with another service and globiflow will not handshake. It just sends out.
Speaker 3: 11:48
So that’s a difference. That’s a difference between like just having a password and actually being able to do a connection, which is like both sides go. Yeah, this is good, right? That’s correct. That’s right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: 12:01
Put your password in and you go and you’re good to go. Like Mailgun for instance, it doesn’t require you to have this handshake, but there are Api APIs that do in podio is one of them. Podio would be a podio. Ap has a perfect example of that. So um, prophet was brand new at the time and there’s a lot of different things that I had to do. Um, you know, like for instance, like taking a rave for an example, like an array is a variable that has multiple values in it and you can see different types of arrays and they have like, name is this and phone number is this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. So again, in the old days, which is like a year and a half ago, um, this kind of stuff wasn’t even really on people’s radar. People were really doing things and globiflow to handle heavier code style stuff. Um, in very backwards kind of ways. W by any means necessary and proxy who makes it so much easier because it allows you to get past those first initial hard steps and then just let you work with the data. So I mean who just lets you call a script with a, with a few variables and a returns what you need. Okay. Working with Jason, Jason is a type of language that, that um, it’s like a, a, a language that lets you hold information. You know, adjacent object is like, like a podio item is an example of a Jason object that has everything to do with a podio item. So working with Jason in globiflow is something that’s still brand new to us. And we’ve had in the past year and a half, we’ve had stuff added to, uh, to Globee flow where we can work with Jason more effectively because it doesn’t always work. It needs to be cleansed and worked with in a specific way. And Andrea says, thankfully given us tools to do that and um, and, and being able to analyze a raise in different ways. I needed to do a lot of stuff that I just didn’t, I didn’t know how to do and globiflow or I didn’t even know if it was possible because the PHP, uh, the, the level of PHB that you can write in globiflow is limited. It’s not like you can just go off and write anything that you want. It’s only certain things. So then you have these conversations with people like Andreas, you’re like, how do I do this? Oh, okay. Well how about a script? How about a, how about a way of calling something out extraneous that lets you do this work and then returns the result? Oh, that’s kind of neat. So all of the things that I needed to do, I, you know, I was just curious about this and it just, you know, we start to get through, then the community starts to indicate, oh, by the way, what about this, what about this? And now we have a huge list of scripts from Google to share file to zero too.
Speaker 3: 14:28
These are, these are like shortcuts then. Yes. Again, I’m just trying to break this down to the, to the, to the person who is thinking about doing this or wanting to do more. You know, this would be a, uh, this is the Coles notes that probably, that relationship probably doesn’t. So let’s, let’s, let’s work on too. So let’s move into email now. Let’s talk about the way the way our company email and the
Speaker 4: 14:51
way that we do it and how it integrates with [inaudible] and how proc Fu, or at least a knowledge of, uh, the Podio Api is necessary to do what we do. So we all manage our own emails and our own logs. Okay. We use Globee mail
Speaker 3: 15:06
workspaces, so each in her own words as their own workspace with an, an a dedicated email app, which they use to receive via Globee male. Um, and some, you know, and we can talk about a little bit about some other time, but via Globee mail, which is a phenomenal tool for this, we receive all of our emails into that APP. So in essence you have got, um, I always say this is my inbox. I have no other inbox. I could technically go into Google, but I just, this is my inbox. So that’s how it’s all set up. And then we also have just to give the context, each of us has individual workspace where we’re the only members and then we’ll end, uh, I, uh, an Admin user that can handle all the scripting. Um, but then we’ve got a centralized in our CRM email log, which, um, is a shared inbox. And, and so now, now go ahead and now that people understand the structure.
Speaker 4: 16:00
Sure. So, um, in order for this to work, we have a series of email filters. Basically whenever I, whenever any of us gets an email, it goes into our own personal email log, our own individual email log. And most of the time, you know, emails can be emails private, right? And if, if, if I get an email and Jordan gets an email and we’re both on the same meal, we both get the email, it’s all normal. It’s like it’s what you would expect from from me. Yeah. So everything goes into the system. Then it goes into our own individual email logs. And then like Jordan said, we have the shared log. So the idea is that if any of us gets an email and you can, and you can compare this to the normal outlook way of doing things, which just pretty messy and kind of stupid or you’re forwarding the same email around you, a group of people and then somebody says, Hey, I didn’t get that email. And then you forward it to them. And then now you got two chains and then you’ve got two chains that are going and then it, and then who knows what, who’s getting what. So whenever one of us gets an email that we want to share with the team, all we do is we dump the whole contents of the email into the shared log and enter proc Fu. Okay. Two very complicated Api processes that we would have to wrangle. Normally. One of them is copying comments. Globee mantle all depends on the comments of the podio item. Every comment being an individual email. That’s how globe mail works. So when you get a new email, a new comment on that item and uh, and, and that’s how you see that your email. So being able to copy comments, being able to make sure that you’re only copying comments that have been copied before. Otherwise you would just copy comments and then you’d have the first email copy comments and you’d have the first email in the new email. A lot of duplication and all of that business. So again, there’s something else. The prop food makes it possible for us to do this without having to rack our brains and how we’re going to do this. That’s one. Number two is copying files. If I get an email with a bunch of files, it, I want to share those files with my team. I clicked share, I share the email log into our, into our, um, our, uh, public log, and then everything goes the whole car. The whole history of the email goes, um, the, all the files, the information about the email load goes into the shared log. And here’s the best part because we all have these email filters set up in exactly the same way. Anybody can then pick up on that email. Anybody can click reply, write an email and it goes into the public log and it’s like we’re all communicating with it together. Shared Inbox at that point. At that point, it becomes a true shared inbox where everything is just there in the inbox and anybody can pick up on it. Anybody can see everything. Um, and I’m sure a Jordan, you’ll agree with me like it’s been an absolute.
Speaker 3: 18:36
And the other benefits and what I may do is as part of this podcast, I may do a five minute video overview, screenshare overview and put this into that, into the podcast episode, uh, notes, uh, for people to see in action. Because what it’s meant for us is number one, we can all have our own private logs. Um, now I, as I have to say, there are times when I get frustrated because I don’t think people share their emails enough because they forget to share it. It’s a client email and it’s still a private and that annoys me every time I see it. But that’s, that’s a person thing, not a system thing. Um, and, but we all have our own mailboxes and it’s critical obviously for me. I, you know, CEO, I get lawyer things and bank things that sometimes don’t want to be shared. And also people get like they get emails from their mum or Pizza Hut and we don’t need to clutter that shit up. No, it’s um, you know, we don’t need that. So we’ve all got our own inbox and it functions like, think of how much time people waste filing their frigging emails. I get people and they’re so proud that they’ve spent an hour filing their emails into different folders. Well, because podio works on a relationship database, we automatically, we see it in automatically links to the person we’ve got to flow set up to automatically link to the company. I can then link it to any project or sales or pipeline or support ticket or anything like that. And suddenly from each of those different vectors, I can see the emails and more importantly, um, that works the same way on the shared inbox. So if I am on a per, per private point of view, I may link an email and keep it private to uh, to whatever, to a project and nobody else would be able to see the context of that email. But on the shared email at the time point of view, which the majority of project ones are, then they can have those, they can be looking at a project, see the history of all the shared emails across anybody in our organization, click them open and look at them
Speaker 4: 20:28
and, and, and, and, and employ all of the, um, employee. All of the power of that podio gives you for anything else. Like we connect all of our emails to the projects that are related to, to the clients that are related to, and it gives us that extra, that extra filtering ability when you’re meeting with a client. And you can see the entire email history of that across everybody’s emails. You know, search for emails sent to me, search for emails, sent to Jordan, search for emails from this client, from that client. They’re all sorted by project, they’re all sorted by company. And we can just say filter by this. Boom, here’s the whole list. And um, and, and we, we get to use the power that podio gives us to do that,
Speaker 3: 21:05
but, but we use the power of the end result. But the process of getting there, we’ve got this ability to have a shared or private and then the ability to mirror perfectly from our own workspace, our own email app to the shared email app, that ability to mirror perfectly. So all the comments are there in the right order. And all of the, the files, attachments that get sent are also pushed up to that, um, shared inbox critically because that’s usually half the battle when you get an email. Um, that’s all possible because of the, the clever bits that you were able to do shortcut wise, uh, in approch food sense. Right.
Speaker 4: 21:48
I mean at Jordan and Jordan can attest to this, like we’ve been playing around since day one since since literally day one we have been talking about how do we get our email in podio globee rounds. Globee mail has been around for a long time. We’re using Globee mail in ways that maybe push it beyond the true way it’s meant to be used. But you know, it works for us. Whatever works for you individually. But even before we really started to engage globee male in a heavy way, we’ve been talking and playing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: 22:18
Oh, I’ll be honest, before you joined the company, right?
Speaker 4: 22:21
Speaker 3: 22:21
I remember years and years ago going through a 30 minute session with Citrix people who no longer work there and worked at for years because they want, and I drew out a whole, I remember I found it the other day. I just wrote a whole sort of idea of an inbox and how podio, you can have an inbox and related to things because it has been a, uh, a problem whole time. But one more critically, we’ve developed a very, like, think about this in podio. We all have our own inbox is their true inboxes with unread emails, with archived emails. I’ve gotten more than 35,000 emails in my podio inbox at this point. Think about the fact that all of those emails are linked across our system to projects and deliverables and most critically all of those emails that are public or that are our team emails or that we want people to see our, our, our immediately sync to our shared inbox. That is a functionality that is possible because of the shortcuts that you developed, the proximal allowed us to do. And that I think, you know, that that I think is a really good example of how using something like proc Fu, um, if people, you know, give, opens up a world of potential, uh, possibilities. Now, just before, you know, just in one of the final thing I want to ask in terms of this, you know, because again, you know, you immediately broken to Saul and arrays and, and, and, and, and all that. And cause I think, you know, like most people once you know something you’re, you, you skipped to the end quite quickly because you know everything but you had to learn it as well. So, um, you know, proc food. Um, aside from just asking me when the workspaces, I mean, what do you feel like the learning curve is, you know, so you need to start to basically look up how PHP works and, and learn a few core things. But how big do you think that learning curve is for your average person who is, who is switched on but not a coder?
Speaker 4: 24:22
Speaker 3: 27:37
As, as we’ve discussed in this podcast, you know, if you want to create more and more advanced systems and do more and more events, things then the capabilities that proc food provide you as you start to learn it. And as you start to understand it, I mean I’ve looked, I looked just the other day and how many scripts are now available to do things. Um, you know, it’s almost unbelievable how many scripts you have out of the box to be able to take, to take and work with. So really proc Fu is, is, is the, is the, um, the core tool in your belt. Some ways if you’re going to start doing advanced work inside of Podio, it, unless you want to start building your own server based API calls yourself, which is of course another step of and some of that, but proc who provides a shortcut version and the way of doing all of that, uh, cutting down the time and, and using the expertise of other people that have already built it.
Speaker 4: 28:40
One, one suggestion. I can leave the community with a, for anybody who might be listening to this and use this podio and globiflow on a regular basis and to get the most out of proc food. The reason why [inaudible] was so crucial, the reason why it’s so powerful is because in the globiflow environment, there were only three ways to touch a podio item, get referenced items, you know, get ref items that are related to the APP that you’re currently. And that’s one searching for items which you can only search by one variable. And sometimes that’s not always the best way, uh, and get a podio view and then filter through it, which is one of the most powerful tools in the system. But the problem is is that it can be a bit time consuming when you want to filter through 100,000 items and you only want two or three, right? So why profit is so unique and why it’s it, it’s, it gives you a Ninja abilities that globiflow flow cannot, is that everything is based on the podio item Id. Every item in Podio has a unique id attached to it that it is that you grab and do a bunch of things with. You can get information about a podio item, you can get update the fields of a podio item. A lot of these scripts based up themselves upon you holding the Podio item id and I know the Podio item id is a token that’s available to you in globiflow, but here’s my one suggestion for everybody who is getting into these new more detailed systems and for you to want to play around more deeply with proxy who put a hidden text field in every single podio app that you build that’s going to store the podio item id and then just write a simple little flow that says whenever items are created in this app, take the podio item id from the token that’s available and Globee flow and shove it in that field. You will have no idea how much power and how much, how much more power you will be able to get out of proxy and globiflow. If you have the ability to just grab that podio item Id and you can use calculation fields to make comma separated relationships and you can do different things. It’s a great way to podio system. I highly recommend doing it. Rainer had recommended it to me and a bunch of other people and now all of our systems do it. We’ve, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve dropped the podio item id there and every system and it’s already yielded a lot of different cool things that we can talk about on future podcasts.
Speaker 3: 30:59
Oh, that’s a great tip. And I, I mean, I’ve seen it and seen how you use it. I mean, I remember a little while back you asked me to, to update smartphone to give the item id, um, from, I think it was the item id of where you initiate us a, an SMS call. Um, and uh, and just that little thing because we’ve, you get, if you understand what those ideas are, that little thing allows you to automatically link back an SMS, uh, log directly to what you’re, uh, um, uh, to, to where the, the place in Podio you’ve sent it from. And that’s that just a little thing where I’m just, what, just knowing that item ID is massively critical. Um,
Speaker 4: 31:42
having, having access to Podio, item IDs from a global perspective offers a multitude of different ways to play with and supercharged different aspects of the system. For sure.
Speaker 3: 31:53
Sure. Um, well listen, that’s fantastic. I think what I’ll do is I’ll, I’ll try and post up a video and in the, in the description of this podcast, um, so that’s, uh, people can see maybe a two minute, three minute demo of the email inbox. I won’t go into details in terms of how it’s built. A, you know, it will get boring like that, but I’ll just show it in action. Um, and, and as Andrew pointed out, there are resources out there, globee flow and proc food each have a workspace and, and they are not tools that are outside of your reach. So, you know, if you’re listening to this and you’ve thought maybe there’s something cool I want to do, but you don’t know how to do it yet, chances are you can do it. Just, uh, you know, take a close look at the globe flow in Prague for workspaces and start to get to know those tools even better.
Speaker 4: 32:39
Speaker 3: 32:40
highly recommended it. It’s going to, it was pivotal in my awakening as a person who is now capable of going in and writing their own sort of code on the server level. And it’s just, it’s, it’s a great way to sort of get to that next step. It’s, and, and the other way is to just to get in there and play around and uh, and poke and prod as much as you possibly can. Absolutely. Well, everybody listening here and you know, you’ll have your assignment if you’re new to a proc who, if you’re not using it yet, if you’re trying to get something a bit more advanced and you podio system, go check out those workspaces and trial prep flu and head over to the learning channel that Andrew mentioned. WC schools, three schools,
Speaker 4: 33:25
Stockholm as has, um, uh, tutorials about everything you’d ever want to know about programming. And they’re, they’re explained in very clear terms and it’s a good starting point for you to grab the tools you need and then go play with them after.
Speaker 3: 33:37
Super well, thanks very much Andrew, and from everybody. Have a great week.
Speaker 4: 33:42
Speaker 1: 33:44
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